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		By: Scott Bruce		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2013 01:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jmkeep.com/book-burning-digital-age/#comment-688&quot;&gt;M. Keep&lt;/a&gt;.

LOL - True, true it IS a classic.  It&#039;s just a maddening double standard, I don&#039;t deal well with those.  I subscribe the George Carlin perspective on standards &quot;One will do just fine&quot;.

But you&#039;re dead on, it&#039;s all in how you market it I guess.  We&#039;ve become so used to being bullshitted at every turn that we don&#039;t know how to cope when something presents itself honestly.

I don&#039;t suppose they&#039;ll be pull Game of Thrones off the shelves anytime soon either, more than enough incest, rape and violence in there to keep things rolling.  &quot;Oh but that&#039;s okay because it&#039;s in a &#039;fantasy&#039; setting with dragons and magic...AND it&#039;s making all this money!&quot;, which is the hook isn&#039;t it?...

Sorry, I&#039;m ranting again - I sent a more coherent one off to Kobo as they seemed to be the most egregious offender.  That was cathartic, not that I expect any form of satisfactory response from them but the venting helped temper the outrage.

With the packaging (circling back around) I guess it&#039;s about what is technically correct.  The best kind of correct.  Technically, it IS a &quot;personal massager&quot; as that&#039;s what it was originally designed to be...it just so happens that it&#039;s an awesome vibrator as well (and likely sells more for that purpose than anything else).  They can still feel &quot;good and clean&quot; about their image, while taking our money for it even though they know the real reason why it&#039;s selling.  No one&#039;s giving them grief about it so why rock the boat?

...I&#039;m gonna stop before I ramble into a comment that&#039;s longer than your post :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jmkeep.com/book-burning-digital-age/#comment-688">M. Keep</a>.</p>
<p>LOL &#8211; True, true it IS a classic.  It&#8217;s just a maddening double standard, I don&#8217;t deal well with those.  I subscribe the George Carlin perspective on standards &#8220;One will do just fine&#8221;.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re dead on, it&#8217;s all in how you market it I guess.  We&#8217;ve become so used to being bullshitted at every turn that we don&#8217;t know how to cope when something presents itself honestly.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t suppose they&#8217;ll be pull Game of Thrones off the shelves anytime soon either, more than enough incest, rape and violence in there to keep things rolling.  &#8220;Oh but that&#8217;s okay because it&#8217;s in a &#8216;fantasy&#8217; setting with dragons and magic&#8230;AND it&#8217;s making all this money!&#8221;, which is the hook isn&#8217;t it?&#8230;</p>
<p>Sorry, I&#8217;m ranting again &#8211; I sent a more coherent one off to Kobo as they seemed to be the most egregious offender.  That was cathartic, not that I expect any form of satisfactory response from them but the venting helped temper the outrage.</p>
<p>With the packaging (circling back around) I guess it&#8217;s about what is technically correct.  The best kind of correct.  Technically, it IS a &#8220;personal massager&#8221; as that&#8217;s what it was originally designed to be&#8230;it just so happens that it&#8217;s an awesome vibrator as well (and likely sells more for that purpose than anything else).  They can still feel &#8220;good and clean&#8221; about their image, while taking our money for it even though they know the real reason why it&#8217;s selling.  No one&#8217;s giving them grief about it so why rock the boat?</p>
<p>&#8230;I&#8217;m gonna stop before I ramble into a comment that&#8217;s longer than your post 🙂</p>
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		By: M. Keep		</title>
		<link>https://jmkeep.com/book-burning-digital-age/#comment-688</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2013 23:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jmkeep.com/book-burning-digital-age/#comment-686&quot;&gt;Scott Bruce&lt;/a&gt;.

But it&#039;s a classic!

See, the thing is, it&#039;s all about the wrapping paper. Joshua and I were in the store today and saw a &#039;personal massager&#039; and he said that&#039;s what Amazon wants. I knew it was a vibrator. He knew it was a vibrator. But calling it a &#039;personal massager&#039; is so much less crass.

So there won&#039;t be any more virgins, there will be innocent people. There won&#039;t be any more rapes, there will be uncertain desires. There won&#039;t be any more incest, there will be close relationships.

Dress it up and you can get away with anything, just don&#039;t tell readers what it really is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jmkeep.com/book-burning-digital-age/#comment-686">Scott Bruce</a>.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s a classic!</p>
<p>See, the thing is, it&#8217;s all about the wrapping paper. Joshua and I were in the store today and saw a &#8216;personal massager&#8217; and he said that&#8217;s what Amazon wants. I knew it was a vibrator. He knew it was a vibrator. But calling it a &#8216;personal massager&#8217; is so much less crass.</p>
<p>So there won&#8217;t be any more virgins, there will be innocent people. There won&#8217;t be any more rapes, there will be uncertain desires. There won&#8217;t be any more incest, there will be close relationships.</p>
<p>Dress it up and you can get away with anything, just don&#8217;t tell readers what it really is.</p>
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		By: M. Keep		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2013 23:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jmkeep.com/book-burning-digital-age/#comment-685&quot;&gt;mikey2ct&lt;/a&gt;.

I think this will also reduce the amount of writers and variety. There comes a point where eventually only the really dedicated will keep jumping through these hoops.

I personally love connecting with our fans, just because I genuinely enjoy talking with people, especially about our passions. And it just so happens our writing is a passion!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jmkeep.com/book-burning-digital-age/#comment-685">mikey2ct</a>.</p>
<p>I think this will also reduce the amount of writers and variety. There comes a point where eventually only the really dedicated will keep jumping through these hoops.</p>
<p>I personally love connecting with our fans, just because I genuinely enjoy talking with people, especially about our passions. And it just so happens our writing is a passion!</p>
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		By: Scott Bruce		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Oct 2013 00:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The first thought I had when my wife started reading this out was &quot;Let&#039;s see if they deleted this...NOPE!&quot; you can still get about 30 different versions of &quot;Mein Kampf&quot; on Amazon, Kobo and Barnes &#038; Noble.  Well that&#039;s just fucking precious.

http://store.kobobooks.com/Search/Query?Query=%22Mein%20Kampf%22

http://www.amazon.ca/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&#038;field-keywords=mein%20kamph

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/mein-kampf?store=allproducts&#038;keyword=mein+kampf

Excuse me, I have some angry emails to write...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first thought I had when my wife started reading this out was &#8220;Let&#8217;s see if they deleted this&#8230;NOPE!&#8221; you can still get about 30 different versions of &#8220;Mein Kampf&#8221; on Amazon, Kobo and Barnes &amp; Noble.  Well that&#8217;s just fucking precious.</p>
<p><a href="http://store.kobobooks.com/Search/Query?Query=%22Mein%20Kampf%22" rel="nofollow ugc">http://store.kobobooks.com/Search/Query?Query=%22Mein%20Kampf%22</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.ca/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&#038;field-keywords=mein%20kamph" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.amazon.ca/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&#038;field-keywords=mein%20kamph</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/mein-kampf?store=allproducts&#038;keyword=mein+kampf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/mein-kampf?store=allproducts&#038;keyword=mein+kampf</a></p>
<p>Excuse me, I have some angry emails to write&#8230;</p>
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		By: mikey2ct		</title>
		<link>https://jmkeep.com/book-burning-digital-age/#comment-685</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2013 09:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jmkeep.com/book-burning-digital-age/#comment-683&quot;&gt;Brenda Wheeler&lt;/a&gt;.

I buy most of my books on Amazon and read on my Kindle or in my Cloud Reader.
 I also have the Kindle APP on my PC and buy books on Smashwords and other sites E.G. Blushing Books or Pink Flamingo.
The second category goes into my &#039;downloads&#039; folder where I open it with the APP.
Indie writers are going to have to, if they don&#039;t already, promote themselves more than they do:
1) Have a website and/or join with other writers in blogging.
2) Write a newsletter. Be reachable by email/tweet.
3) Join Goodreads.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jmkeep.com/book-burning-digital-age/#comment-683">Brenda Wheeler</a>.</p>
<p>I buy most of my books on Amazon and read on my Kindle or in my Cloud Reader.<br />
 I also have the Kindle APP on my PC and buy books on Smashwords and other sites E.G. Blushing Books or Pink Flamingo.<br />
The second category goes into my &#8216;downloads&#8217; folder where I open it with the APP.<br />
Indie writers are going to have to, if they don&#8217;t already, promote themselves more than they do:<br />
1) Have a website and/or join with other writers in blogging.<br />
2) Write a newsletter. Be reachable by email/tweet.<br />
3) Join Goodreads.</p>
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		By: J. Keep		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2013 22:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jmkeep.com/book-burning-digital-age/#comment-683&quot;&gt;Brenda Wheeler&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks a lot! : )

Though I like the convenience of having my library connected to a single account, Amazon&#039;s history of bluntly pulling purchased books off of selection is rather offputting. It&#039;s the kind of thing that makes me like to shop elsewhere for that reason alone. 

In the meantime though, most of our sales come from there so I&#039;m glad the bulk of our work is untouched! Crossing my fingers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jmkeep.com/book-burning-digital-age/#comment-683">Brenda Wheeler</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks a lot! : )</p>
<p>Though I like the convenience of having my library connected to a single account, Amazon&#8217;s history of bluntly pulling purchased books off of selection is rather offputting. It&#8217;s the kind of thing that makes me like to shop elsewhere for that reason alone. </p>
<p>In the meantime though, most of our sales come from there so I&#8217;m glad the bulk of our work is untouched! Crossing my fingers.</p>
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		By: Brenda Wheeler		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2013 22:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This totally sucks for the readers too, that only have access to the Kindle App for reading. I&#039;m lucky to have an iPad and love Smashwords, I buy there often and it looks like I&#039;ll be buying there now more than often! I&#039;m gonna share your post cause this is beyond ridiculous! I truly enjoy y&#039;all&#039;s writing J.E. &#038; M. Keep and hope this banning is lifted from Amazon. In the meantime, Smashwords here I come!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This totally sucks for the readers too, that only have access to the Kindle App for reading. I&#8217;m lucky to have an iPad and love Smashwords, I buy there often and it looks like I&#8217;ll be buying there now more than often! I&#8217;m gonna share your post cause this is beyond ridiculous! I truly enjoy y&#8217;all&#8217;s writing J.E. &amp; M. Keep and hope this banning is lifted from Amazon. In the meantime, Smashwords here I come!</p>
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		By: J. Keep		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Keep]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2013 13:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jmkeep.com/book-burning-digital-age/#comment-681&quot;&gt;Beau&lt;/a&gt;.

Well unless things change, I know I personally couldn&#039;t make a living off of writing without Amazon, and I suspect the same is true for most other indie authors. They make up 70% of our sales, and anecdotally I know that to be about the same for other authors we&#039;re involved with.

I sincerely hope Amazon gets knocked down a few pegs and the sea of vendors to sell our books upon becomes more of an open and even playing field, because as is Amazon has a stranglehold on the market. A lot of careers will hinge on the whims of that company, on whether they wish to ban certain books, or even whether they care to up their fee.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jmkeep.com/book-burning-digital-age/#comment-681">Beau</a>.</p>
<p>Well unless things change, I know I personally couldn&#8217;t make a living off of writing without Amazon, and I suspect the same is true for most other indie authors. They make up 70% of our sales, and anecdotally I know that to be about the same for other authors we&#8217;re involved with.</p>
<p>I sincerely hope Amazon gets knocked down a few pegs and the sea of vendors to sell our books upon becomes more of an open and even playing field, because as is Amazon has a stranglehold on the market. A lot of careers will hinge on the whims of that company, on whether they wish to ban certain books, or even whether they care to up their fee.</p>
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		By: Beau		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2013 13:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They got me about 4 am this morning with a vague email referencing an even vaguer content guidelines. I&#039;ve posted the email and guidelines in my blog http://beaujohnson.us/?p=197 as well as links to some other posts on this, including this one. In the end it&#039;s their business, they can do what they want. They may be the largest but they aren&#039;t the only game in town]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They got me about 4 am this morning with a vague email referencing an even vaguer content guidelines. I&#8217;ve posted the email and guidelines in my blog <a href="http://beaujohnson.us/?p=197" rel="nofollow ugc">http://beaujohnson.us/?p=197</a> as well as links to some other posts on this, including this one. In the end it&#8217;s their business, they can do what they want. They may be the largest but they aren&#8217;t the only game in town</p>
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		By: J. Keep		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2013 13:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jmkeep.com/book-burning-digital-age/#comment-679&quot;&gt;Lana Amore&lt;/a&gt;.

Precisely. The only endgame for this kind of censorship is more inconvenience for readers, both those who want the content and don&#039;t.

Like most instances of moral outrage, the results are self-defeating.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jmkeep.com/book-burning-digital-age/#comment-679">Lana Amore</a>.</p>
<p>Precisely. The only endgame for this kind of censorship is more inconvenience for readers, both those who want the content and don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Like most instances of moral outrage, the results are self-defeating.</p>
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		By: Lana Amore		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2013 12:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot; It’s not about duplicitous authors tricking people into buying content that offends their sensibilities. It’s not about deception (or seducing young people into reading illicit content).&quot;  THIS!  Authors aren&#039;t going to stop writing smut, nor will readers stop reading it, it&#039;ll just go semi-underground where the chances of an &#039;innocent&#039; stumbling upon it will be increased TENFOLD. If they&#039;d just left it as it was -- What You See Is What You Get -- those who wanted to avoid it can easily do so, those who want to read it can also easily do so.  This is just the equivalent of a chastity belt with a rusty lock.  So pointless and very harmful to ordinary writers!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; It’s not about duplicitous authors tricking people into buying content that offends their sensibilities. It’s not about deception (or seducing young people into reading illicit content).&#8221;  THIS!  Authors aren&#8217;t going to stop writing smut, nor will readers stop reading it, it&#8217;ll just go semi-underground where the chances of an &#8216;innocent&#8217; stumbling upon it will be increased TENFOLD. If they&#8217;d just left it as it was &#8212; What You See Is What You Get &#8212; those who wanted to avoid it can easily do so, those who want to read it can also easily do so.  This is just the equivalent of a chastity belt with a rusty lock.  So pointless and very harmful to ordinary writers!</p>
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